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01-08-14, 09:41 AM | ||
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I guess one of my pet peeves in life is this new trend of calling for the elimination of certain standards and rules because one group can't meet them. You really want to make someone feel weak, frail, and damage their self-esteem? Instead of helping that person rise to the occasion and meet the standards as they are, announce that you are going to lower them for that particular group or eliminate them all together just because that particular group initially can't achieve them. If women in the military need additional training to achieve better upper body strength, then so be it. In the end, it will make them better Marines, make them better prepared for the physical demands of combat and will do wonders for unit morale and cohesion. That's my two cents. I'll back away now before I really start ranting. |
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01-08-14, 09:43 AM | |
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There are some men who can't do pull ups either.
I posted in the other thread here at VF that Pavel's, Grease the Groove, is what was instrumental in my ability to do pull ups. Plus, I'll be 57 this year, and we were required to do pull ups, etc. in school. Since this is discussion is based around current issue about women having to do pull ups in the military, here's a great article: http://www.military.com/military-fit...better-pullups
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01-08-14, 09:57 AM | |
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This is kind of a tangent, but hopefully still relevant to the discussion---I think part of the "standardization" process should be to re-examine those qualifying standards to determine that the components are actually relevant to performance on the job. In other words, should pull ups be required for their own sake or is that type of strength necessary to perform the job properly? I'm using pull ups as an example since that's in the topic sentence, but it could apply to any of the physical or mental tests that determine fitness for the military, police or fire personnel, lifeguards, etc. I'm not in any way qualified to determine those standards in those professions, but I have seen them applied specifically to exclude people who would be otherwise qualified and could perform the required work. That's my concern, as a child of an era where groups were excluded just to maintain the status quo. Generally, it would be great to apply the same legitimate fitness standards to all job applicants if that is truly what would happen. Rant over!
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01-08-14, 10:37 AM | ||
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I'm about to go back and do disc 2 of STS back and triceps and I'll be thinking of this thread and the blog article. I do wish I had something better for pull ups. I have Cathe's Turbo Tower and TBH I've never been happy with it for pull ups. It just feels awkward. I think I'm going to invest in one of those doorway pull up things. I want to finally be able to do a REAL pull up in 2014. I made and missed that goal the last two years and darn it I want to get there!
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Colleen Last edited by eyefit; 01-08-14 at 12:05 PM. Reason: back and TRICEPS not biceps...whoops |
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01-08-14, 11:07 AM | ||
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P.S. Hope you are staying warm, Jeanne. Looking forward to the warmer temps soon, aren't you?
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01-08-14, 11:43 AM | ||
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I think that if they've now realized they need to structure women's training differently than in the past to have them reach this standard, this one-time delay in the requirement is okay with me. But I agree with what some others have said about the disconnect between women wanting to be in the military, which obviously includes performing certain physical skills, and yet not wanting to look like they have those skills. That's a real shame!
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