ebay seller sent me a bootleg DVD copy - Page 3

amoodygirl · 03-18-13, 01:57 PM

That's absolutely the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard. But, knowing eBay, you have to return the item to the seller no matter what to get your refund. I would just return it and be done with it. Lesson learned. eBay is not a very safe place and getting worse.

Diane

sherry7899 · 03-18-13, 02:05 PM

Wow, that is ridiculous! Why can't they let you take photos of the dvd and submit that to ebay as proof? I am so sorry you're going through this.

Sherry

Juliepie · 03-18-13, 02:06 PM

That is completely ridiculous. I have never been asked to file a police report.

(On Amazon they just take your word for it and you get your money back...and you don't have to return the item, either!

)

hdw · 03-18-13, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monterey vidiot

I called the # in michl43's post when I had time to hold on the line. They sure don't make it easy. My only 2 options are to send it back to the seller (no way) or take it to a police station. If the police decide it's not genuine, then I'm to request either an affidavit to destroy or a police report. Then I'm to re-contact eBay's "buyer protection service" and find out how to get the affidavit or report to them.

Why don't they just freakin' hold up flaming hoops for me to jump through.

Off to the police station.

Wow... really...?

monterey vidiot · 03-18-13, 03:01 PM

hdw, I couldn't make this up.

Then the young police officer I spoke with was polite but totally clueless. Just asked me did it play. Never heard of DVD-R. Next call is to the District Attorney's office. When I worked there, I used to prosecute counterfeit DVD cases for crying out loud. It's not rocket science.

JanaK · 03-18-13, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amoodygirl

eBay is not a very safe place and getting worse.

Diane

Neither is Amazon. I got Jillian's Killer Abs a while back and just realized yesterday it is a dvd-r when it wouldn't play. I think I'll stick to Collage Video or Total Fitness DVDs from now on.

Anyone selling dvds should know better than to sell dvd-rs unless they clearly state that's what they are. And then, I think the price should be much less, since the quality is lower and they don't last as long.

I hope this ebay seller loses his 100% rating from this incident.

michl43 · 03-18-13, 04:02 PM

Try this link at the bottom again and double check the ebay transaction number for accuracy, it should work:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/...unterfeit.html

monterey vidiot · 03-18-13, 04:15 PM

mchl43, thanks, it seemed to work this time.

michl43 · 03-18-13, 06:52 PM

If she has any of the same DVDs on her active for sale listing, you could also reports those numbers and ebay will probably end those. Also, within an active listing is a link to "report an item" and chose "listing practices" and reason "suspect fraudulent listing"

Eibhinn · 03-19-13, 07:55 AM

Before you get the DA involved, it might be worth contacting Kali Ray to see whether or not any of her DVDs have ever been released in DVD-R format. Not all DVD-Rs are bootlegs. Some instructors - especially independent producers - release their workouts in that format. If I recall correctly Amazon used to have an on-demand program for smaller demand programs where DVDs were burnt to-order. The earliest copies of Bellyfit Earth were DVD-R, as were the earliest copies of Sara Ivanhoe's Yoga on the Edge (I have one of those). Mary at Totalfitness DVDs has several yoga releases in particular that come in DVD-R format. She doesn't order releases when she knows they come that way, but many fitness producers don't seem to understand the difference.

I only mention this because, as I mentioned earlier, it seems really weird to me that someone would choose to pirate such a poorly known release. Jillian Michaels, Beachbody, Cathe etc. - these are all ripe for pirating as there is a high demand and/or high cost for the releases. It seems a pretty strange choice for someone to bootleg something like Kali Ray I've only ever seen for sale for $5 at WalMart. Maybe worth considering.

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03-18-13, 01:57 PM
amoodygirl Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NY	That's absolutely the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard. But, knowing eBay, you have to return the item to the seller no matter what to get your refund. I would just return it and be done with it. Lesson learned. eBay is not a very safe place and getting worse. Diane __________________ "When ignorance screams, intelligence moves on.” ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Never have I been a blue calm sea I have always been a storm Fleetwood Mac (Stevie Nicks) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Diane

03-18-13, 02:05 PM
sherry7899 Join Date: Jun 2003	Wow, that is ridiculous! Why can't they let you take photos of the dvd and submit that to ebay as proof? I am so sorry you're going through this. Sherry __________________ "Say you are tired and you will be. Believe you are strong and you are." (Sean O'Malley) The cat in my avatar is my sweetheart named Bonkers

03-18-13, 02:06 PM
Juliepie VF Supporter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chicagoland, IL, USA	That is completely ridiculous. I have never been asked to file a police report. (On Amazon they just take your word for it and you get your money back...and you don't have to return the item, either! ) __________________ --Julie Surely a person of sense would submit to anything, like exercise, so as to obtain a well functioning mind and a pleasant, happy life. --Socrates

03-18-13, 03:01 PM
monterey vidiot VF Supporter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Monterey County, California	hdw, I couldn't make this up. Then the young police officer I spoke with was polite but totally clueless. Just asked me did it play. Never heard of DVD-R. Next call is to the District Attorney's office. When I worked there, I used to prosecute counterfeit DVD cases for crying out loud. It's not rocket science. __________________ "It takes work to change the shape of this muscle." Susan Harris in The Firm Vol. 1, talking about the triceps, in 1986 Still working on my triceps after all these years. ~Cynthia

03-18-13, 04:02 PM
michl43 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego	Try this link at the bottom again and double check the ebay transaction number for accuracy, it should work: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/...unterfeit.html

03-18-13, 04:15 PM
monterey vidiot VF Supporter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Monterey County, California	mchl43, thanks, it seemed to work this time. __________________ "It takes work to change the shape of this muscle." Susan Harris in The Firm Vol. 1, talking about the triceps, in 1986 Still working on my triceps after all these years. ~Cynthia

03-18-13, 06:52 PM
michl43 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego	If she has any of the same DVDs on her active for sale listing, you could also reports those numbers and ebay will probably end those. Also, within an active listing is a link to "report an item" and chose "listing practices" and reason "suspect fraudulent listing"

03-19-13, 07:55 AM
Eibhinn Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlantic Canada	Before you get the DA involved, it might be worth contacting Kali Ray to see whether or not any of her DVDs have ever been released in DVD-R format. Not all DVD-Rs are bootlegs. Some instructors - especially independent producers - release their workouts in that format. If I recall correctly Amazon used to have an on-demand program for smaller demand programs where DVDs were burnt to-order. The earliest copies of Bellyfit Earth were DVD-R, as were the earliest copies of Sara Ivanhoe's Yoga on the Edge (I have one of those). Mary at Totalfitness DVDs has several yoga releases in particular that come in DVD-R format. She doesn't order releases when she knows they come that way, but many fitness producers don't seem to understand the difference. I only mention this because, as I mentioned earlier, it seems really weird to me that someone would choose to pirate such a poorly known release. Jillian Michaels, Beachbody, Cathe etc. - these are all ripe for pirating as there is a high demand and/or high cost for the releases. It seems a pretty strange choice for someone to bootleg something like Kali Ray I've only ever seen for sale for $5 at WalMart. Maybe worth considering.