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01-08-05, 12:57 PM | ||
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Great post and I agree completely! I've also used similar rotations primarily because I have a hard time putting on much muscle. For this kind of rotation, I've used Cathe's Pyramids and Slow and Heavy. I think any of Cathe's strength workouts would work well for this. I used different instructors/types of cardio so I wouldn't burn out on Cathe. I do think this would be a good time efficient rotation for someone with a new baby. I would add that I think one interval workout a week like IMAX is very helpful for reducing body fat. Elisabeth |
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01-09-05, 03:34 AM | ||
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Tone is indeed an anatomical word but not a physiological response. It is a noun not a verb. The state of activity or tension of a muscle beyond that related to its physical properties, that is, its active resistance to stretch. In skeletal muscle, tonus is dependent upon efferent innervation. (Stedman, 25th ed) Definition from: Unified Medical Language System (MeSH) at the National Library of Medicine A state of partial contraction that is characteristic of normal muscle, is maintained at least in part by a continuous bombardment of motor impulses originating reflexly, and serves to maintain body posture. Definition from: MedlinePlus at the National Library of Medicine Definition: [n] normal tonicity of the muscles Source: hyperdictionary.com Muscle tone refers to the amount of tension or resistance to movement in a muscle. Muscle tone is what enables us to keep our bodies in certain position or posture. Changes in muscle tone is what enables us to move. For example, to bend your arm to brush your teeth, you must shorten (increase the tone of) the biceps muscles on the front of your arm at the same time you are lengthening (reducing the tone of) the triceps muscles on the back of your arm. To complete a movement smoothly, the tone in all muscle groups involved must be balanced. The brain must send messages to each muscle group to actively change its resistance. Source: cerebral-palsy.org So, it is a real word. It is just not a word that has anything to do with muscles getting shaplier, smaller, harder, denser, etc. It is misused in the fitness industry. Deb |
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01-09-05, 09:05 AM | |
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Join Date: May 2003
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Good post, Debbie...
but the problem with the English language and also its greatest strength as a living language is the way words change or are invented and so easily integrated into general usage:
From my dictionary: "v.t. -toned, toning . To give certain tone to;" It's also listed as an adverb... However, I still have to agree with Debbie...I can understand the physiology and science behind her arguments. If you properly work and feed any muscle, it will not only become stronger, but bigger. My plea is when will we women stop fearing bigger muscles???? For most of us, they just won't get that big!!!! Look at a ballet dancer, a real one. They have the most awesome leg muscles you'll see on any woman and they aren't that big!!! Ballerinas have to be quite small (so their partners can lift them!), but man do they have to be strong! Okay, rant over. Back to my oatmeal
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01-09-05, 09:25 AM | ||
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The definitions I gave were for "muscle tone" from physiology references. In this case, there was only the noun, tone or tonus as it is also called. Deb |
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01-09-05, 09:35 AM | |
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I think heavy weight training whips your muscles into shape faster than anything. But, I also believe in balance, so I throw endurance in there also. I have gotten GREAT results in hips and abs with kickboxing...
Here is my recommendation: Day 1: 30 minutes upper body, heavy, 30 minutes kickboxing Day 2: 30 minutes lower body, heavy, 30 minutes step aerobics Day 3: 15 minutes pilates for abs and either rest or yoga Day 4: 1 hour kickboxing Day 5: 1 hour full body endurance weight training Day 6: 15 minutes pilates for abs, 30 minutes hi/lo Day 7: 1 hour cardio of choice Day 3 you could do a light upper body workout if you want to hit upper body 3x per week.
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01-09-05, 04:45 PM | |
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Debbie M I have printed out your posts from here - hope you don't mind! THANK YOU!! I've been telling people (in my "real" life) for years they are misusing the word "tone", but the media has put it into our heads that the word as used today in certain fitness circles actually has a physiological meaning.
I just want you to know how much I appreciate yours and Liz N's posts!! I'm glad both of you are here!! By the way, I saw on another thread that you also like the Body Bar workouts, in addition to the TLP's (as do I, of course!!). I recently discovered the Body Bar workouts myself, and I love them!! Carol
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01-09-05, 07:22 PM | |
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Oh-oh, I was at the "No, wise, whatever buying" challenge and I mentioned how I pick up new workouts based on the opinions or reviews of people who like the same things I do. If Debbie M. likes Body Bar, I'm in trouble. I've never even seen a Body Bar workout (the only thing we don't agree on so far are the Firms) but now I'm curious...must resist...
What bugs me about toning is that to me, in my mind, when I think toning, I'm thinking, well the muscles are still going to grow (bigger!) and get stronger and who doesn't like definition??? But I realize a lot of women still thinking: Toning...small, dense, strong muscles...why hide those lovely muscles???? I should start a thread on my biggest pet peeve so far this year....why do women so fear building bulky muscles...sigh.
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01-09-05, 07:24 PM | ||
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Yes, I do love Body Bar and TLP as well as loads of other functional based workouts. I may love my pure strength and cardio, but I love so many other things too. Deb |
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