KCM getting in on "metabolic training" - Page 5

workoutjunkie · 02-23-12, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JP44

ITA!! I'm so glad someone else mentioned this! I think her posture is actually getting worse from all the boxing work. I have the same issue w/ Susan Chung's posture. I can't look at her!!

Joan

Yikes - is there something I should know about the ill effects of boxing? I love her TLC workout...

Gibbee · 02-23-12, 07:19 AM

I think it is important to remember to work your back (lats, rhomboids) to balance out the forward movements. Boxing is no different from weight work that focuses heavily on the chest... you just need to balance it out. Really, what would be awesome to do would be the band work that Cathe uses like bow & arrow, the seated T's and Y's with the band or weight work (rows, flyes, etc.) It wouldn't take much time or effort to add it in.

And stretch!!!

Gibbee · 02-23-12, 07:21 AM

And since you are not in a real fight and attempting to protect your face and the soft areas of the body (neck, stomach), you don't need to hunch. We are just doing it for cardio, not for sport or self-preservation.

workoutjunkie · 02-23-12, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Gibbee

I think it is important to remember to work your back (lats, rhomboids) to balance out the forward movements. Boxing is no different from weight work that focuses heavily on the chest... you just need to balance it out. Really, what would be awesome to do would be the band work that Cathe uses like bow & arrow, the seated T's and Y's with the band or weight work (rows, flyes, etc.) It wouldn't take much time or effort to add it in.

And stretch!!!

Thanks for your suggestions! I will do some T's and Y's after TLC. That sounds perfect. Not sure exactly what bow & arrows are, well, I can envision what they'd be like, but will google it to see if I can see the exact form/movement.

Gibbee · 02-23-12, 08:16 AM

Also add in some backward shoulder rolls between each set when you are just bobbing.

Here is a link to Cathe doing bow & arrow:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB7mUhxVO6s

mtnmom · 02-23-12, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Gibbee

Boxing is no different from weight work that focuses heavily on the chest...

I have to disagree. The day after boxing, I feel it in my back, never in my chest.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibbee

And since you are not in a real fight and attempting to protect your face and the soft areas of the body (neck, stomach), you don't need to hunch. We are just doing it for cardio, not for sport or self-preservation.

I do agree with this. In the first Susan Chung workout I tried, I noticed how hunched she was. Her neck was angled forward and down. It reminded me of a turtle if it was being held upright.

I don't notice it with Kelly.

Gibbee · 02-23-12, 10:43 AM

Oh I agree that I feel it in my back for sure, especially if I use weights, but boxing uses a lot of repetitive forward motion and that tends to involve the chest and delts -especially the anterior delts. In the past I have had PT to help reverse the tendency to hunch since I spend a lot of time at a desk and on the computer and that has always involved opening up the shoulders and chest and strengthening the back. Muscle imbalances are no fun. I make sure the stretch the whole upper body after boxing. I like my PT...but not that much!

I absolutely love TLC... And Cathe's MMA Boxing. Fun, fun, fun!

Artist of Eyes · 02-23-12, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JP44

ITA!! I'm so glad someone else mentioned this! I think her posture is actually getting worse from all the boxing work. I have the same issue w/ Susan Chung's posture. I can't look at her!!

Joan

I think Kelly has not only poor posture, but bad form in many of her lifts. Some of the moves, she seems to get a little creative and I don't feel that's safe or wise for inhome exercisers; you need a trained professional to help guide you in what is safe for your personal body. I was going to keep her Start Here and Your Best Body workouts but after reading this forum, I am again reminded that I do not like her workouts and I don't DVDs clogging up my space.

fitmiller · 02-23-12, 11:33 AM

Billy Blanks stressed repeatedly from the beginning about not hunching your shoulders, and I've always remembered that. It's obviously very important.

Helen S · 02-23-12, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Artist of Eyes

I think Kelly has not only poor posture, but bad form in many of her lifts. Some of the moves, she seems to get a little creative and I don't feel that's safe or wise for inhome exercisers; you need a trained professional to help guide you in what is safe for your personal body. I was going to keep her Start Here and Your Best Body workouts but after reading this forum, I am again reminded that I do not like her workouts and I don't DVDs clogging up my space.

I agree with this when it comes to shoulder moves. I had to sell/trade some of her weight workouts because of her shoulder exercises.

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02-23-12, 07:19 AM
Gibbee VF Supporter Join Date: Nov 2001	I think it is important to remember to work your back (lats, rhomboids) to balance out the forward movements. Boxing is no different from weight work that focuses heavily on the chest... you just need to balance it out. Really, what would be awesome to do would be the band work that Cathe uses like bow & arrow, the seated T's and Y's with the band or weight work (rows, flyes, etc.) It wouldn't take much time or effort to add it in. And stretch!!! __________________ "A healthier future is every tiny step we take, or every little rep, that ultimately leads us to our goal." Arnold Schwarzenegger STS Graduate MET-Rx 180 Graduate

02-23-12, 07:21 AM
Gibbee VF Supporter Join Date: Nov 2001	And since you are not in a real fight and attempting to protect your face and the soft areas of the body (neck, stomach), you don't need to hunch. We are just doing it for cardio, not for sport or self-preservation. __________________ "A healthier future is every tiny step we take, or every little rep, that ultimately leads us to our goal." Arnold Schwarzenegger STS Graduate MET-Rx 180 Graduate

02-23-12, 08:16 AM
Gibbee VF Supporter Join Date: Nov 2001	Also add in some backward shoulder rolls between each set when you are just bobbing. Here is a link to Cathe doing bow & arrow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB7mUhxVO6s __________________ "A healthier future is every tiny step we take, or every little rep, that ultimately leads us to our goal." Arnold Schwarzenegger STS Graduate MET-Rx 180 Graduate

02-23-12, 10:43 AM
Gibbee VF Supporter Join Date: Nov 2001	Oh I agree that I feel it in my back for sure, especially if I use weights, but boxing uses a lot of repetitive forward motion and that tends to involve the chest and delts -especially the anterior delts. In the past I have had PT to help reverse the tendency to hunch since I spend a lot of time at a desk and on the computer and that has always involved opening up the shoulders and chest and strengthening the back. Muscle imbalances are no fun. I make sure the stretch the whole upper body after boxing. I like my PT...but not that much! I absolutely love TLC... And Cathe's MMA Boxing. Fun, fun, fun! __________________ "A healthier future is every tiny step we take, or every little rep, that ultimately leads us to our goal." Arnold Schwarzenegger STS Graduate MET-Rx 180 Graduate

02-23-12, 11:33 AM
fitmiller Join Date: Jan 2011	Billy Blanks stressed repeatedly from the beginning about not hunching your shoulders, and I've always remembered that. It's obviously very important.