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Old 09-20-04, 04:56 PM  
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Shelly..I cannot believe that she deleted the source of her certifications from her forum because of this thread? Are you serious? I guess some things never change!
That's the kind of thing that creeps me out--and it creeps me out no matter which instructor's board it is. I'm talking about people copying things to other boards or alerting an instructor (or followers) to something "juicy" that's going on here. I can't help but wonder how many so-called "bashing" threads are kept alive by folks rushing over to right imagined wrongs.
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Old 09-20-04, 05:00 PM  
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I'm not trying to be nasty. I think Wendilee asked for that one. I have never posted on a Body B Fit thread before (though I certainly read them). The thing is, I wasn't angry before, when she didn't have current certifications, and that alone wasn't what made me decide her workouts weren't for me. It was the reviews from other VFers that I trust, and my own observations of her behavior, that factored in that decision. I was almost impressed when I got this email from her, bragging about her new certifications. But then I found out what she had really done, and frankly it disgusted me. I feel like she is trying to pull one over on us. Does she think we are stupid? She oughta know we are going to check up on stuff like that, and who could resist a free online quiz with instant results? I never expected it would be that easy, but when it was, I figured out pretty quick that this is a crock.

Wendilee has to know this is not legit. If she really thinks this is on the up and up, why did she pull the source of her certifications off her website after this thread got 'nasty'?

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I'll have to disagree about this thread turning nasty, too! I think the threads have been more than fair.

Shelley, I've been stewing on this one all day, too, and have pretty much come up with the same conclusion as you. I really felt like our intelligence was insulted. Gosh, at least she could have done was wait until her certifications arrived in the mail to post all of her accomplishments. :rolleyes:

The sad thing is that Wendilee could get a gazillion certifications, but if she doesn't improve her counting skills, her form and camera presence, nothing will change. This is really the areas that she needs to concentrate on.

Edit: I've given up trying to get my hubby to stop eating a whole roll of Orea cookies after dinner, so I've now declared that Orea cookies have healing powers. I'm sure his knee will be feeling better within a week.
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Old 09-20-04, 05:04 PM  
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Is this kinda like getting a Docorate or becoming a Minister from the back pages of the Rolling Stone??
I've been thinking about doing this myself! Just take a test to show your knowledge and immediately you're indoctrinated.

I remember paying loads of money for a "correspondence course" to get certified. They sent me a tiny little booklet along with a test to fill out and mail in. Open book test, 10 lessons. I didn't need the book. I went through the lessons like they were a true/false test and no matter what you put would, in a way, be a correct answer. I sent everything back to them and got my money back. I was only 17 at the time but I could see that it would be worthless. I haven't had a chance to see the IFA certification tests but I wouldn't be surprised if it's a lot easier to pass than my correspondence course.

What I'd like to see is if Wendilee could pass the IFAA or ACE certification.
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Old 09-20-04, 05:14 PM  
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Shelly..I cannot believe that she deleted the source of her certifications from her forum because of this thread? Are you serious? I guess some things never change!
I just want to clarify something here, for the sake of accuracy... I read at the beginning of this thread that she had posted that her certifications were through IFA, and of course someone found the website for that and it went on from there. But later in the afternoon I went to her website and forum to see for myself, and couldn't find any mention of her IFA certifications anywhere, just the statement on the homepage that she is certified. I assumed she must have deleted the IFA part when she saw the thread here. However, after doing some searching at her forum I did find the thread where she says it was a certification test through IFA and she would be back in an hour and a half after taking the test, please pray for her, etc., then comes on later all excited because she had passed the test. Not sure why it took her that long, we all passed in 10 minutes, but I digress. Anyway, I am not sure why I can't see this thread without searching, maybe I've been deleted from her forum LOL! But the thread does appear to be there still.

Just FWIW (I don't want to mislead anyone, even a little bit!)

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I think this thread actually educated me. When I first read about Wendilee's certifications, I was going to compliment her on how much energy she has and was going to say that she was taking a step in the right direction. I was thinking that not only does she produce so many workouts but she spent time studying for her certifications. I didn't know organizations like IFA existed.

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Old 09-20-04, 05:29 PM  
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I didn't know organizations like IFA existed.
And I find IFA's claim that 80% of gyms would hire someone with their certification frightening.
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Old 09-20-04, 05:36 PM  
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[QUOTE=Joe]I've been thinking about doing this myself! Just take a test to show your knowledge and immediately you're indoctrinated.

I was married by someone who did this We really wanted a good friend to do it, so he went online and became a preacher. He didn't even have to take a test or pay money. He did send them $25 and they sent him a fancy certificate and all. We made sure it would be legal before he did it, and the state would allow it, and there was no problem. I wanted desperately for him to say "By the power vested in me by the World Wide Web" but he refused.

By the way, I think I can claim to have been here long enough, and visited enough forums on other boards, to know what nasty is, and this isn't it. I promise. Also remember, any publicity is good publicity. How many of us have seen these threads and went to her site to check it out? Some may have seen pictures or what have you and left, but I know she's sold some workouts and maybe gotten some fans from people wondering what all the fuss is about. It's when they stop talking about you that you have to worry. Ask almost any former child star.
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Old 09-20-04, 05:40 PM  
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Thanks Shelley for the clarification. I will not assume that she changed anything then. I take back any comment that related to that since i did not see anything change.

I only saw the list of certifications on the "About Wendilee' page, which included the Pre/Post Natal Fitness and Children's Fitness which I really doubt now. Nothing had a source when I looked.

If anyone knows who Wendilee is certified by to teach Yoga, Pre/Post Natal Fitness and Children's Fitness, please do post.

It is pretty easy for ua as all the other instructors as their credentials are clearly listed at Collage or their own websites.

"Keli Roberts Qualifications: IDEA's 2003 Fitness Instructor of the Year. Certified by ACE, AFAA and ISCA (International Sports Conditioning Association). Gold Certified Personal Trainer through ACE. 3 Star IDEA International Presenter."

"Cathe is an ACE and Body Pump certified instructor."

"Mindy Mylrea is the 1999 International IDEA Fitness Instructor of the Year, a National and World Aerobic Champion, a sponsored athlete, and a five star presenter for IDEA. She is an advisory board member, an international presenter, author, motivational speaker, video personality, and CEC provider."


Since Wendilee clearly announced that she was recertified, I am wondering if she ever was certified by ACE. PT alone without group Fitness, Kickboxing, Sports Nutrition, Step Training etc. is a exam you have to study for with ACE.
It was supervised, timed, etc. and while not deathly, was not a joke like the questions on that online test.

Hmmm....

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