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Old 03-08-20, 11:55 AM  
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Coronavirus: "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." Franklin D. Roosevelt

We may as well have a dedicated Coronavirus thread at this point.

Susan H linked to an enlightening post by Immunologist Lisa Turner on FaceBook:

https://www.facebook.com/lisa.turner...01428415526260

Having lived many places, I've had the unusual experience of living through (and having to evacuate from) hurricanes, floods, wildfires and earthquakes. These events have led me to becoming very aware of the fragility of life, the need to be as prepared as possible, the suddenness of disaster, and the butterfly wing thinness of the veneer of civilized behavior. During the big CA earthquake in '94, my neighborhood was in rubble. We had no water or power or other services for over two weeks. The National Guard was patrolling streets with guns.

The gas and water lines were damaged. A local business was gouging by selling bottled water for $5 a gallon.

I am stunned at the news when a hurricane is an hour away and then folks decide to stock up on supplies. WTH?

Sure, not everyone has the disposable income to buy pallets of toilet paper ahead or even the room to store them. But, if someone buys one extra gallon of water each week for a year, they will have 52 gallons of water in reserve after a year.

You shouldn't count on the government having your best interests in mind. Pretend you are an Old West pioneer. They didn't have cell phones and FaceBook. They had to rely on themselves to be safe.

If you are prepared, the fear is diminished.

Or, maybe not? What do you think?
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Old 03-08-20, 12:26 PM  
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We may as well have a dedicated Coronavirus thread at this point.

Susan H linked to an enlightening post by Immunologist Lisa Turner on FaceBook:

https://www.facebook.com/lisa.turner...01428415526260

Having lived many places, I've had the unusual experience of living through (and having to evacuate from) hurricanes, floods, wildfires and earthquakes. These events have led me to becoming very aware of the fragility of life, the need to be as prepared as possible, the suddenness of disaster, and the butterfly wing thinness of the veneer of civilized behavior. During the big CA earthquake in '94, my neighborhood was in rubble. We had no water or power or other services for over two weeks. The National Guard was patrolling streets with guns.

The gas and water lines were damaged. A local business was gouging by selling bottled water for $5 a gallon.

I am stunned at the news when a hurricane is an hour away and then folks decide to stock up on supplies. WTH?

Sure, not everyone has the disposable income to buy pallets of toilet paper ahead or even the room to store them. But, if someone buys one extra gallon of water each week for a year, they will have 52 gallons of water in reserve after a year.

You shouldn't count on the government having your best interests in mind. Pretend you are an Old West pioneer. They didn't have cell phones and FaceBook. They had to rely on themselves to be safe.

If you are prepared, the fear is diminished.

Or, maybe not? What do you think?
I agree with you. I've always stocked up on canned items and other non-perishables in the event of an emergency. I have enough laundry detergent, toothpaste and cough drops to last two years. I take public transportation and have seen people with gloves and covering their mouths and faces with a mask or scarf. When someone sneezes they look horrified. I have always washed my hands and think all people should be doing that not just because of the threat of Coronavirus. If you use the bathroom wash your hands. It's nasty if someone doesn't. Before I cook, I wash my hands. In my world, it's nasty to do anything else. Agree with you about the government not having your best interest in mind. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I agree with you.
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Old 03-08-20, 01:02 PM  
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That really is a sane and rational discussion of the coronavirus. What a wonderful antidote to the 24/7 hysteria I've been hearing.
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Old 03-08-20, 01:17 PM  
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That really is a sane and rational discussion of the coronavirus. What a wonderful antidote to the 24/7 hysteria I've been hearing.
Agreed...wish everyone would read it.
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Old 03-08-20, 01:35 PM  
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I am amazed by the number of people who don’t wash their hands or do a quick “pretend” wash and barely get their fingertips wet. I was at the casino a week ago and three women came in, went to the bathroom and “washed” their hands and left all while I was still washing my hands. I see it all the time and it’s the majority doing it not just a few.
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Old 03-08-20, 02:12 PM  
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I am amazed by the number of people who don’t wash their hands or do a quick “pretend” wash and barely get their fingertips wet. I was at the casino a week ago and three women came in, went to the bathroom and “washed” their hands and left all while I was still washing my hands. I see it all the time and it’s the majority doing it not just a few.
The advice is to wash your hands long enough to sing "Happy Birthday."

When we get home after a trip to the store, etc., I use "Yankee Doodle."

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Old 03-08-20, 02:44 PM  
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I agree, it’s good to be prepared in advance. People can get ugly when they are afraid. Last year, two men got in a fight over bottled water at Walmart when word got out that a hurricane was on the way. It gets crazy.

My husband thought I was overreacting when I suggested buying a two-week food supply. However, I purchased it anyway. We live in a small town and both of us thought the virus wouldn’t come to our town -at least not for some time. Yesterday the first coronavirus death was reported in my county.

What makes me nervous about this virus is that it lives for 9 days on hard surfaces and is extremely contagious. Thinking of all the things a person with coronavirus can touch (even dvds at thrift stores) a week before I touch them gives me the heebie-jeebies.

So I am planning on stocking up on additional supplies soon. We might start spending more time at home until the weather warms up. My husband is a senior and I qualify for senior discounts at some places. So we have to be a bit more cautious.
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I am amazed by the number of people who don’t wash their hands or do a quick “pretend” wash and barely get their fingertips wet. I was at the casino a week ago and three women came in, went to the bathroom and “washed” their hands and left all while I was still washing my hands. I see it all the time and it’s the majority doing it not just a few.
It’s gross -especially when they’re at a restaurant.
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I am amazed by the number of people who don’t wash their hands or do a quick “pretend” wash and barely get their fingertips wet. I was at the casino a week ago and three women came in, went to the bathroom and “washed” their hands and left all while I was still washing my hands. I see it all the time and it’s the majority doing it not just a few.
I feel the same way. I work at a law firm and you would think these professionals would take the time to wash their hands. I can't tell you how many times I've been in the stall and heard someone come out, after doing number 2, and walk right out the door without as much as turning on the water, let along washing their hands. Ewwwwwwww.
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Old 03-09-20, 12:39 AM  
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I live in a tourist area. Coachellafest and Stagecoach concerts venue is so close to my house I can hear the boom boom boom of the music at night. We live so close to the venue for the BNP Paribas OpenTennis tournament the city has to post no parking signs on the streets around my home. All 3 events bring in international visitors. The tournament was scheduled to begin this week. It has been cancelled as of tonight. We are waiting on an announcement on Stagecoach and Coachellafest for next month. The area will take a huge financial hit if all 3 events are cancelled but better safe than sorry. The first coronavirus case has been confirmed at a hospital in my area (20 minutes away)and a second one in the county I live in. My husband is 73 with a chronic lung condition and if he contracts the virus I don't think he would survive.My son and geanddaughter work with the public. I'm very worried.

We are earthquake prepared so in case of quarantine we would be reasonably ok.
I worked in a meat department of a regional supermarket for 35 years. I'm used to washing my hands countless times a day. It grosses me out when I'm in a public bathroom and see a woman come out of the stall and out the door without washing her hands!
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