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Without this thread, I probably wouldn't have started looking at a few things, one of which linked to this piece on self.com from this May 14: Adele Isn’t Discussing Her Weight So Why Are We? Even compliments send a powerful message about whose bodies we value. Either the website of an established magazine has published a piece with substantial factual errors or this is a very interesting point: Quote:
Next I'll post another reply to your first point from a piece that I probably wouldn't have found without another search, also related to this thread. Later, I'll post more of a reply to your first point. It concerns another example of what's explicitly been called "fit-shaming" (by a major US TV network); I really don't think that it's precisely "fit-shaming" but rather another example of the problems concerning weight, size, and aesthetics.
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07-05-20, 01:06 PM | ||||
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I've also always heartily disliked exchanges like this: Q: "Why are you exercising? You're thin!" A: "How do you think I stay thin?" Whenever I've seen words to this effect posted somewhere--including on VF in the past--people have seemed to find it rather clever, but it actually reflects the same basic "dangerous" and "stupid" attitude that younger Kate had heard so often (in other words, that someone who didn't exercise to "stay thin" supposedly wouldn't need to be active). Again, as you'd said, "thin is not necessarily the same thing as fit." (Kate's experience is also why I don't believe, as someone told me in a VF thread about unsolicited comments on weight loss, that people should just accept compliments without disputing them. Maybe someone wouldn't dispute such comments in every circumstance, but the mindset behind these comments shouldn't receive consistent quiet acceptance either.)
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"It doesn't happen all at once," said the Skin Horse. "You become. It takes a long time. That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily, or have sharp edges, or who have to be carefully kept. Generally, by the time you are Real, most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all, because once you are Real you can't be ugly, except to people who don't understand." The Velveteen Rabbit |
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07-16-20, 07:39 AM | ||||
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[Warning: video may play automatically.] 'What Would You Do?' focuses on 'Fit-Shaming' tonight There is a 00:25 video that looks like a commercial for the show, with a brief appearance of Serena Williams saying "I've been body-shamed" and a clip of the show itself. In this video, a woman is shown exercising at a beach boardwalk while she is wearing clothing that shows that she has muscular arms. She and the "passersby" are all part of the show. Quote:
More later. [Note: For some reason, I never posted more in this thread, but a sort of continuation is in a post in a 2023 thread, "Vent: When people are surprised that you exercise," about the "opposite" problem of people assuming that people who don't look stereotypically "fit" must be unfit.]
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"It doesn't happen all at once," said the Skin Horse. "You become. It takes a long time. That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily, or have sharp edges, or who have to be carefully kept. Generally, by the time you are Real, most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all, because once you are Real you can't be ugly, except to people who don't understand." The Velveteen Rabbit Last edited by hch; 08-10-23 at 10:24 PM. Reason: Added link to another thread |
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