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Old 05-27-11, 02:36 PM  
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I don't see anything on the page I bring up from the OP's link that is like what you are saying on this thread.

What evidence do you have that Collage is doing something wrong?
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Old 05-27-11, 03:31 PM  
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I don't see anything on the page I bring up from the OP's link that is like what you are saying on this thread.

What evidence do you have that Collage is doing something wrong?
You don't think that the two "reviews" (posted below) of Chair Dancing Through The Decades are disrespectful - to say the least - of people who may be interested in buying the DVD?

As well, as has been pointed out upthread, it appears that the author (and I assume that the reviews were both written by the same person) hasn't actually done the DVD, so they're not genuine reviews.

I just hope the person who wrote the reviews never breaks an ankle.

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Old 05-27-11, 05:03 PM  
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You don't think that the two "reviews" (posted below) of Chair Dancing Through The Decades are disrespectful - to say the least - of people who may be interested in buying the DVD?

As well, as has been pointed out upthread, it appears that the author (and I assume that the reviews were both written by the same person) hasn't actually done the DVD, so they're not genuine reviews.

I just hope the person who wrote the reviews never breaks an ankle.
Yeah, they look like the work of a college student, and an agist one at that.
Two completely different additions around this thread.
. I once got my late 90-something father to do a little of a chair dancing video. He loved it-particularly the very cute "senior appeal" music.
. Re: Amazon. I once published a middling review there criticizing a yoga instructor's cloying style ie. "I teach with CELEBRITIES." It was met with remarks from defenders, I presume her student followers, who simply adored the woman. OK. That's part of the playing field at Amazon.
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Old 05-27-11, 05:44 PM  
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I don't see anything on the page I bring up from the OP's link that is like what you are saying on this thread.

What evidence do you have that Collage is doing something wrong?
Redpanda provided the 2 reviews in question. But you can find Hot Topic threads here that discuss of VFers reviews have been "stolen" for lack of a better word and copy-pasted onto Collage's website. When collage was informed, they chose to do nothing. That is not a isolated case.

I see that as a violation and this is why the thread was started. If you don't integrity and good overall customer service- which includes the reviews offered to, for, and from customers, then IMO, that reflects quite poorly on a site.

I'll add to that unrelated to collage, I've been attacked by a staff member for a popular instructor bc of my poor review. I wasn't hateful but I didn't like the production and was stalked through various websites and personal email as a result. Without reviews, I am sure collage couldn't sell as many workouts. Positive reviews = greater sales. Just a side note.
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Old 05-28-11, 12:20 AM  
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Yea, I have seen the threads at VF about stolen reviews but that doesn't seem to be anything anybody can really prove nor does it seem recent.

I did find the bit in the forum with complaints about reviews of a video. Some posters ended up deciding those were funny. I did not think it was the same thing as Collage allowing phony reviews.

It may or may not have happened before. I have looked at their forum from time to time and feel the mods have a bit of an attitude, I don't really care what they say or do there as I'm not too interested in the forum.

I love Collage. If they were knowingly allowing phony reviews on their forum, I would not know about it because I would not read it. ,
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Old 05-28-11, 09:22 AM  
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I consider it phony, aka fake, when someone posts a review for a workout they didn't do. And I also consider it fake when someone copies and pastes someone else's words into a review. If you go to the forums here at VF they will provide links. I think it's a shame that this would happen and futhermore, trusting a fellow, well documented (and trusted) VFer is something many of us here would do; why would they lie, what possible reason would they have to say those things?

I shop collage, but no way shape of form would I say I love them. It's incidences like this that keep me from loving it. That and you can find better deals and better CS elsewhere.
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Old 05-28-11, 09:45 AM  
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well if they are allowing copied reviews then its wrong. same with amazon. posts can be proven from when a VFer may post it here to when it shows up on either of these sites. you can't take content from message boards or other sites without the site's owners permission so it's just illegal anyway.

i emailed amazon about early reviews and they say they do that b/c some ppl get early/advanced copies and most of the time products are out before amazon sells them anyway. some of the reviews are just bogus and i know one time amazon did delete them b/c the ppl didn't actually review the product. i am not sure of other times they have done it, just the times i have emailed them and complained. it's such a persistent problem i can imagine that it is hard to police it unless ppl complain.

i never complained to collage, b/c as stated, i can find deals elsewhere so i don't really use collage, although i do like to rely on reviews for my purchases. the only time i use collage is when i can't order a dvd elsewhere. that scenario is such a rarity for me personally that i haven't used collage since i ordered aerobarre.

it is upsetting to some b/c they use the reviews to make sound purchases. it is obvious that the collage ones are a joke and a mockery of workout vids, but on amazon it's another bowl of wax; you can't tell the mole from the sincere reviewer/customer or the person with an ax to grind.
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Old 05-28-11, 10:10 AM  
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I view all reviews with a grain of salt. (Especially ones where the reviewer got the video for free.) Collage is the LAST place I'd go for review information. I will look at the clips sometimes. I haven't visited their forum in years. Their "Staff Favorites" designation is random and inscrutable.

Amazon reviews need to be filtered, too. I was looking up panties last year and you'd be amazed at how many GUYS wear women's panties and write reviews from the male perspective.

Not exactly helpful for a woman!
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Old 05-28-11, 11:02 AM  
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...Amazon reviews need to be filtered, too. I was looking up panties last year and you'd be amazed at how many GUYS wear women's panties and write reviews from the male perspective.

Not exactly helpful for a woman!
Well alrighty then. That's not something I would have thought to be on the look out for. Interesting.
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Old 05-28-11, 02:11 PM  
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I do love Collage, really, lol. Have always gotten really good service from them.

I don't think I said anybody was lying. I have seen the links. My comment is that t'would be hard to prove.

I do not distrust anyone of VF or even on Collage. I just don't care about the issue (lol, so why would I post here again, don't know except I am talkative).

Peace, Artist of Eyes, have a great weekend.

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I consider it phony, aka fake, when someone posts a review for a workout they didn't do. And I also consider it fake when someone copies and pastes someone else's words into a review. If you go to the forums here at VF they will provide links. I think it's a shame that this would happen and futhermore, trusting a fellow, well documented (and trusted) VFer is something many of us here would do; why would they lie, what possible reason would they have to say those things?

I shop collage, but no way shape of form would I say I love them. It's incidences like this that keep me from loving it. That and you can find better deals and better CS elsewhere.
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