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Old 10-03-19, 02:34 PM  
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Me too, Nancy. I get pain every time I stop working out for whatever reason, and I have several risk factors for osteoporosis. So I'm sticking with the weights and plyometrics.
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Old 10-03-19, 08:27 PM  
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There's definitely a sweet spot for exercise-too little causes problems, too much causes problems. Everyone's sweet spot is different. Cathe is clearly in some kind of genetically superior Superhero class!!!

I'm trying to learn my body's cues for ENOUGH ALREADY!!!! so I don't overdo it and get too stiff and sore. Its hard, because I'm so used to going all out and enjoying DOMS-but the injuries have forced me to be more careful.
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Old 10-03-19, 11:42 PM  
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Each person has to do what is right for them. That said, most of us as we get older very gradually do less lifting, pulling, pushing, and general moving around, not more, and those who do hardly any of these things in daily life probably benefit from weight workouts more than others.

For some of us, less can be more, but that doesn’t mean giving up weights altogether. Maybe a certain amount is too much, but there is that sweet spot as someone above said, that is just right for pushing ourselves a little bit without being tired and sore.

Which leads me to my thought that there may be times that it isn’t the weights that are the problem, but following along with a class or a video with weights. These can be fun and motivating, but they are more of a general one-size-fits-all and might not be what is needed. Yes we can modify and go at our own pace, but I am finding sometimes even that is too distracting if I really want best form and to get the most out of using weights. For instance, Cathe live, since someone brought Cathe up as an example. Cathe does her live workouts with great form, but from what I saw, some percentage of the participants can’t and I suspect are probably not getting as good a workout as they would if they used weights on their own (or with a trainer). And they might even be hurting themselves. (Though I admire every one of them for keeping up with Cathe for fifty minutes at all and for being part of a motivating class that makes it fun for so many others to do in streaming).
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Old 10-04-19, 05:43 AM  
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I am absolutely not going to do less moving around in general as I get older. Both my mother and my mother-in-law died from not moving. I remember my grandfather's second wife didn't want to go to Uncle Herman's because "he has those three steps". In fact, that is what got me exercising, because I am naturally sedentary. But I've always been good about not pushing to the point of injury. I will continue to do what feels right, and makes sense for my health.
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Old 10-04-19, 06:52 AM  
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For some of us, less can be more, but that doesn’t mean giving up weights altogether. Maybe a certain amount is too much, but there is that sweet spot as someone above said, that is just right for pushing ourselves a little bit without being tired and sore.
I’m looking for my sweet spot and gradually I’m finding it. I didn’t lift serious weights for years other than the dead-weight limbs that I guide through large range of motion when I work in my massage office. I never missed lifting heavy either until a slip and a bad neck injury meant that I might not be able to lift heavy, then I immediately missed it horribly. Funny how that happens.

Right now my upper body thrives on very limited amounts of light weight/high rep training and judicial body weight training with icing (the frozen kind not the cake kind ) after. This along with rehabilitative exercise and now Essentrics is my current sweet spot. I hope and my chiropractor believes I’ll be able to progress that sweet spot. I really like the concept of heavy weights but fewer reps but The Firm and Cathe but without monster weights seems like it could be in my future.

It’s all about meeting myself where I am and moving into what’s possible taking one step at a time.
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Old 10-04-19, 06:54 AM  
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I am absolutely not going to do less moving around in general as I get older. Both my mother and my mother-in-law died from not moving. I remember my grandfather's second wife didn't want to go to Uncle Herman's because "he has those three steps". In fact, that is what got me exercising, because I am naturally sedentary. But I've always been good about not pushing to the point of injury. I will continue to do what feels right, and makes sense for my health.
Ditto! My mom basically sat and watched TV for years before she died, and my sis is following in her footsteps - even though she had a heart attack 4 years ago and bought a treadmill that she only used a handful of times within the first few months. I’m carefully going back to my Firms next week! And now, off to my daily walk.
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Old 10-04-19, 10:30 AM  
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When I was being mentored for my Medical Exercise Specialist Certification the Physical Therapist who was mentoring me told me that doing overhead presses and anterior raises with palms facing each other and lateral raises with palms front and slightly forward rather than directly side decreases the chances of impingement. For years I taught them that way cautioning patients not to lift into pain and no one was injured - no one! Another key was choosing an appropriate weight, which sometimes was initially no weight! My oldest patient was 98, used 3# weights and had beautiful form. I want to be him when I grow up.
I naturally do these exercises that way just because they feel better. I use biofeedback by testing my range of motion before and after one or two reps of variations of an exercise (e.g. goblet squat, double front kb squat, sumo squat ) and which ever one gives me better range of motion I do. Then I test my ROM after each set and if it decreases I stop.
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Old 10-04-19, 10:36 AM  
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I agree with Pretty in Pink. My friend recently told me that her elderly mom cannot walk up any steps at all because of lack of strength in her legs. I don't think this should be considered a natural part of getting old. I intend to keep strength training in some form to avoid this.
I lift heavy at times - I took a break recently due to foot surgery and I am currently working my way back up. However I do think that I need to lift lighter for my upper body.

ETA: I also agree with Pretty regarding following videos for weights. This is why I moved to working out with paper strength training programs both at home and in the gym. I haven't done a Cathe or KCM video in ages.
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Old 10-04-19, 10:50 AM  
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I naturally do these exercises that way just because they feel better. I use biofeedback by testing my range of motion before and after one or two reps of variations of an exercise (e.g. goblet squat, double front kb squat, sumo squat ) and which ever one gives me better range of motion I do. Then I test my ROM after each set and if it decreases I stop.
I love this! I think I may do it unconsciously but I’m going to begin doing what you describe. Thanks for sharing!
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Old 10-04-19, 12:36 PM  
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Yes, great post, prettyinpink!
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