Hint/Tip Acessory Muscles, Tracy is right

rosepetals · 03-08-14, 10:17 AM

Tracy is right, we have LOTS of accessory muscles.

Yesterday I went to see a PT for my Sacroiliac Joint. It keeps popping out becoming unstable. The PT was totally different from other PTs in his way of thinking. He quickly showed me a technique to pop the joint back in place, eliminating pain.

Then he showed me exercises to retrain the accessory muscles. He said the key to strengthening the pelvic area was to retrain the accessory muscles. He said you have to wake them up. I said like Tracy Anderson says? He scratched his head as he has never heard of her. When I told him about her he said, finally trainers are acknowledging accessory muscles.

The muscles he taught me how to use that hold that area in are within the abdominal area. Over time he said they will work to hold the hips in place. I just thought I would let you know that his whole focus of the exercises was not the large muscle group, but was the accessory muscles. His simple technique is very effective. In one visit, I learned how to decrease my pain to about nil. It is simply amazing what the accessory muscles can do. Now if I could get my hands on Tracy's post pregnancy 2 I would be thrilled.

suegy3 · 03-08-14, 10:24 AM

That school of thought isn't new and I'm surprised that so many people laughed at TA because of it. I guess it sounds crazy if you don't understand it but don't just blast it without researching. TA may not be the best at explaining things but that doesn't mean that she's preaching junk science. I learned this over 20 years ago when I was taking OT classes. I'm glad that you found a PT that is working for you!

PhyllisG · 03-08-14, 10:28 AM

I am glad you found someone that could help you. I never doubted TA in this regard. It plain makes sense. Reminds me. Time to get back to a TA rotation.

Scorpio6 · 03-08-14, 10:31 AM

Could you please describe the exercises your PT taught you about this, because I have a hip problem, weak abs, and am thinking this could help me, too. Much appreciated.

Debbie S. · 03-08-14, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by suegy3

That school of thought isn't new and I'm surprised that so many people laughed at TA because of it. I guess it sounds crazy if you don't understand it but don't just blast it without researching. TA may not be the best at explaining things but that doesn't mean that she's preaching junk science. I learned this over 20 years ago when I was taking OT classes. I'm glad that you found a PT that is working for you!

You're right. She's been torn apart here. It's the main reason why I don't post much on GP anymore. I can count on one hand the fitness instructors who have helped me, and TA is one of them.

Rosepetal, I'm thrilled for you.

Sophie · 03-08-14, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by suegy3

That school of thought isn't new and I'm surprised that so many people laughed at TA because of it.

Ok, I haven't read every single TA thread in existence, but my impression wasn't that people scoffed at the existence or importance of accessory muscles, but the idea that working them would pull everything in and make you smaller.

But maybe that's my own reading filters. Lots of trainers do in fact pay attention to accessory muscles (and have for a long time), they just don't necessarily talk about them in the same way.

Glad you got some pain relief!

Debbie S. · 03-08-14, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sophie

Ok, I haven't read every single TA thread in existence, but my impression wasn't that people scoffed at the existence or importance of accessory muscles, but the idea that working them would pull everything in and make you smaller.

But maybe that's my own reading filters. Lots of trainers do in fact pay attention to accessory muscles (and have for a long time), they just don't necessarily talk about them in the same way.

Glad you got some pain relief!

There have been a lot of posts where people think that she made up the term, accessory muscles.

PhyllisG · 03-08-14, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Debbie S.

There have been a lot of posts where people think that she made up the term, accessory muscles.

Yup I have read them also over the years.

Sophie · 03-08-14, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Debbie S.

There have been a lot of posts where people think that she made up the term, accessory muscles.

Oh, ok. I guess I missed those.

rosepetals · 03-08-14, 02:34 PM

If I could scan and post the exercises I would. The technique requires practice. Even though I thought I had it all figured out yesterday, today I feel unsure. It's hard to find those muscle and make them work together. Once you master that, you move on to moving while squeezing those muscles. It's too difficult to explain how to do it. It is kind of a hands on with someone guiding you while you learn.

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03-08-14, 10:17 AM
rosepetals Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: UNITED STATES	Acessory Muscles, Tracy is right Tracy is right, we have LOTS of accessory muscles. Yesterday I went to see a PT for my Sacroiliac Joint. It keeps popping out becoming unstable. The PT was totally different from other PTs in his way of thinking. He quickly showed me a technique to pop the joint back in place, eliminating pain. Then he showed me exercises to retrain the accessory muscles. He said the key to strengthening the pelvic area was to retrain the accessory muscles. He said you have to wake them up. I said like Tracy Anderson says? He scratched his head as he has never heard of her. When I told him about her he said, finally trainers are acknowledging accessory muscles. The muscles he taught me how to use that hold that area in are within the abdominal area. Over time he said they will work to hold the hips in place. I just thought I would let you know that his whole focus of the exercises was not the large muscle group, but was the accessory muscles. His simple technique is very effective. In one visit, I learned how to decrease my pain to about nil. It is simply amazing what the accessory muscles can do. Now if I could get my hands on Tracy's post pregnancy 2 I would be thrilled.

03-08-14, 10:24 AM
suegy3 Join Date: Feb 2005	That school of thought isn't new and I'm surprised that so many people laughed at TA because of it. I guess it sounds crazy if you don't understand it but don't just blast it without researching. TA may not be the best at explaining things but that doesn't mean that she's preaching junk science. I learned this over 20 years ago when I was taking OT classes. I'm glad that you found a PT that is working for you!

03-08-14, 10:28 AM
PhyllisG Join Date: May 2005 Location: Woodstock NY	I am glad you found someone that could help you. I never doubted TA in this regard. It plain makes sense. Reminds me. Time to get back to a TA rotation.

03-08-14, 10:31 AM
Scorpio6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: St. Louis MO	PT Exercises Could you please describe the exercises your PT taught you about this, because I have a hip problem, weak abs, and am thinking this could help me, too. Much appreciated.

03-08-14, 02:34 PM
rosepetals Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: UNITED STATES	If I could scan and post the exercises I would. The technique requires practice. Even though I thought I had it all figured out yesterday, today I feel unsure. It's hard to find those muscle and make them work together. Once you master that, you move on to moving while squeezing those muscles. It's too difficult to explain how to do it. It is kind of a hands on with someone guiding you while you learn.