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Old 07-28-18, 06:48 PM  
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Adrien, LOL at your ďhanging on for dear lifeĒ comment! I just remembered that we have a full pull-up tower in the basement near our 4 station gym. Itís DHís playground but he may have to share with me in the near future.

Hattie (Bea), you give me hope! Thanks for sharing your success. Iím currently using Cathe Boxing drills (ICE Rockím Sockím TS #6), 5 Minutes Of heavy bag and my Chest Giant Sets for warm up. I cool down with three 30 second hangs followed by shoulder articulation movements. (Got this from a vegan Bodybuilding site.) Then I try to do KY for decreasing inflammation. Itís working well but Iím going to check out the dvd you mentioned.

FirmDancer (Anita), Itís so good to know that Iím not alone! I started hanging before I started with assisted pull-ups and itís fantastic. It decompresses my shoulders, elbows, wrists and ribs and even releases Fascial adhesions in my shoulders and back. I like to alternately pull my shoulders back and down and then just hang. It creates a massage-like motion.

Demeris, Interesting story! 50 Pull-ups!! When I first read what you wrote I thought you said that HE was 70!

Sarah, I agree. Iím just trying to work my way up to Callanetics hanging Open/closes so I sub my modifications for crunches.

So today I was able to do 7 assisted pull-ups, then had to hang for a couple seconds and did 1 more. Finished the rest of my back Giant Set, Quick stretch and did 3 more assisted pull-ups followed by the rest of the second Giant set. Thatís 13 Total compared to 9 during the same WO last Saturday, so Iím improving.

Did you all see the thread where Bubbles mentioned that she was able to do a pull-up after doing a Margaret Richard Rotation? Iím committed to my Giant Sets for now but I was thinking that theyíre actually high rep/fairly low weight like MR.

I do 4-5 exercises back to back for each UB body area, 10 reps for each exercise, 2 Sets for each Body area. That ends up being 80-100 reps for each body area. In all the years Iíve favored Giant Sets Iíve never totaled the reps until today. I might try to play MR into my rotation at some point.
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Old 07-28-18, 08:00 PM  
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Something that hasn't been mentioned is table pull ups. They're supposed to be more effective than assisted pull ups. I can't vouch for that but do add them to the mix.
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Old 07-28-18, 08:05 PM  
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Hi Buffmama,

When I read your post I immediately thought of Fluidity Pull-Ups. Then I googled table pull-ups to be sure. They are quite similar if not the same. Iíve been doing the Fluidity version for years and they are great but donít kick my patootie like the real deal does. I need to try the table version to see how different it feels. Thanks for mentioning this!
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Old 07-28-18, 08:20 PM  
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To answer your first 2 questions: no and no. They never even entered my head.
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Old 07-28-18, 09:29 PM  
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proper wide grip pull-up.
Why is a wide grip pull-up "proper"?

I recommend you choose the position that where you will be strongest -- shoulder-width with either a supinated grip or neutral grip -- so you can use your biceps as well as your back.

Yes I can do them and I got them by training negative reps years ago.
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Old 07-29-18, 05:32 AM  
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I looked at Table Pull Ups here

To me that looks much more a biceps exercise - aren't regular push ups more back and shoulder?
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Old 07-29-18, 08:11 AM  
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I looked at Table Pull Ups here

To me that looks much more a biceps exercise - aren't regular push ups more back and shoulder?
To me, it looks more like a lat pull-down because of the angle. I started doing these years ago when Mark Lauren first came on the scene and this was one of the exercises in his first book, though I can't remember if he referred to it as a pull-down.

I'm just going to throw this idea out there as an alternative for anyone who can't do a full, unassisted pull-up...I have shoulder problems and will never be able to do a 'real' pull-up unassisted and I do not have anywhere in my home to install a pull-up bar anyway. I have a Total Gym knockoff that I use for pull-ups. I've been using this for years and I feel it's better than using a band because I can adjust the resistance.
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Old 07-29-18, 10:09 AM  
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"Do I want to do them?" Yes! I've never been able to use the Fluidity bar for pull-ups because I couldn't wrap my small hands around the bar. I've often thought of the Stamina Power Tower but the ceilings are low in my apartment. And a door system is out of the question for my apt.

Last month I finally bought the new Cathe Fit Tower. I've got the crossbar at the highest point (43" from the floor) and I can do Mark Lauren's table pull-ups with feet elevated using my Pilates Box or High Step. So far I'm delighted. And it would probably be wise for me not to wish to go any further since I have a history of rotator cuff problems. I just keep focusing on stabilizing and retracting my shoulder blades before pulling up.
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Old 07-29-18, 10:28 AM  
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Why is a wide grip pull-up "proper"?

I recommend you choose the position that where you will be strongest -- shoulder-width with either a supinated grip or neutral grip -- so you can use your biceps as well as your back.

Yes I can do them and I got them by training negative reps years ago.
Sorry Karen, I meant overhand Pull-ups vs underhand Chin ups. Another Exercise Specialist I work with mentioned that Chin ups are easier but Iím not looking for easier. I also fell down 9 steps years ago and my right collarbone/shoulder was injured. Iíve been piecing my posture back together for years and there are advantages to me doing wide pull-ups vs chin ups. Eventually Iíd like to do both but for now Iím starting with pull-ups.

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I looked at Table Pull Ups here

To me that looks much more a biceps exercise - aren't regular push ups more back and shoulder?
Sarah, I definitely feel my biceps more when I pull up on my Fluidity Barre than I do with assisted pull ups.

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To me, it looks more like a lat pull-down because of the angle. I started doing these years ago when Mark Lauren first came on the scene and this was one of the exercises in his first book, though I can't remember if he referred to it as a pull-down.

I'm just going to through this idea out there as an alternative for anyone who can't do a full, unassisted pull-up...I have shoulder problems and will never be able to do a 'real' pull-up unassisted and I do not have anywhere in my home to install a pull-up bar anyway. I have a Total Gym knockoff that I use for pull-ups. I've been using this for years and I feel it's better than using a band because I can adjust the resistance.
I actually had shoulder/collarbone/sternum issues because of a fall I took. The hanging and shoulder articulation along with some Pilates Dowel, magic circle and Spine Corrector Exercises have gotten me back to the point where Iím able to at least be able to work toward this. But yes, the table or Fluidity Barre pull ups are a nice option.

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"Do I want to do them?" Yes! I've never been able to use the Fluidity bar for pull-ups because I couldn't wrap my small hands around the bar. I've often thought of the Stamina Power Tower but the ceilings are low in my apartment. And a door system is out of the question for my apt.

Last month I finally bought the new Cathe Fit Tower. I've got the crossbar at the highest point and I can do Mark Lauren's elevated table pull-ups using my Pilates box or my High Step platform. So far I'm delighted. And it would probably be wise for me to wish to go no further since I have a history of rotator cuff problems.
Judith, thatís fantastic that you found a way to do pull-ups!
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Old 07-29-18, 10:46 AM  
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Lannette, you had mentioned that your "knees are bent in the lower position" when you do pull-ups, but you could try elevating your feet perhaps keeping them on one of your Cadillac's attachments. -- I just edited my post to read "I can do Mark Lauren's table pull-ups with feet elevated using my Pilates Box or High Step." because I realized afterwards that referring to ML's "elevated table pull-up" wasn't clear. I should have said "table pull-up with elevated legs". Mark shows progressions for the "table pull-up": first with knees bent, then with legs straight with only the heels touching the floor, and then with the heels on a stool or chair.
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