IceQueen, have you tried bodyweight workouts? I remembered previously not getting any upper body definition until I did more bodyweight type exercises -- pushups, planks, chin ups, etc. Incorporating stuff like KBKB was good, because it has tons of those type moves in it (well, except the chin ups!). I really tightened up with Weider X-Factor XT. I also remember my lower body really showing definition when I incorporated more explosive lower body stuff, like when I was doing Cathe Xtrain and recently when I was doing KBKB and Atletica. Worth a shot.
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